Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/06/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+= HB 381 TOBACCO REV. FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 381(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 266 VEHICLE WEIGHTS AND INSURANCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 266(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 403 NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 403(TRA) Out of Committee
+ HB 304 COMMERCIAL FISHING LOAN PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 304(FIN) am Out of Committee
+ HB 409 NO WORKERS' COMP. FOR REAL EST. LICENSEE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 409(L&C) Out of Committee
+ HB 240 BREWERY& BREWPUB LICENSEE/SALES BY WINERY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 240(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 150 LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 409(L&C)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to excluding qualified real estate                                                                        
     licensees from workers' compensation coverage."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the first hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:09:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB  LYNN, the bill's  sponsor, disclosed  being a                                                               
licensed real  estate agent in  the State.  "Workers Compensation                                                               
is the  means through which  injured workers are  compensated for                                                               
injury sustained on  the job or as a result  of their job." State                                                               
and  federal laws  require "most  companies  to purchase  workers                                                               
compensation insurance  for their  employees". To that  point, he                                                               
noted that 99  percent of real estate licensees in  the State are                                                               
considered independent contractors rather than employees.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lynn communicated  that  in  Alaska, real  estate                                                               
licensees  "typically sign  an independent  contractor agreement"                                                               
with their real  estate broker and "pay for  their own services".                                                               
The  broker does  not pay  them  a wage/salary  or benefits.  Any                                                               
payment they receive  is "tied directly to the  sales" or service                                                               
they provide rather than hours  worked. The real estate licensees                                                               
themselves  are required  to pay  quarterly federal  income taxes                                                               
and the social  security tax that an employer  would normally pay                                                               
for  an employee.  In addition,  they are  responsible for  their                                                               
business  expenses, including  their  licensing fees,  continuing                                                               
education expenses,  advertising, office equipment,  websites and                                                               
long distance phone  calls. They could be likened  to "a business                                                               
within a  business". The real  estate broker has no  control over                                                               
how the  real estate licensee  under contract with  them conducts                                                               
their business, provided it is  within the boundaries of the law.                                                               
The federal  Internal Revenue Service (IRS)  also recognizes them                                                               
as independent contractors. This bill  would affirm there to be a                                                               
written contract between the broker  and the real estate licensee                                                               
which  states  that the  licensee  would  not  be treated  as  an                                                               
employee  for IRS  or workers'  compensation  purposes. It  would                                                               
also clarify  that the  real estate licensee  would be  paid only                                                               
for what they  produced rather than for the number  of hours they                                                               
might work.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lynn asked  the Committee  to favorably  consider                                                               
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:12:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY   ANN  MCCONNOCHIE,   Licensed  Real   Estate  Broker   and                                                               
Representative, Alaska Association of  Realtors, spoke in support                                                               
of the  bill. She appreciated  the work that  Representative Lynn                                                               
had  conducted  in its  regard.  The  bill would  provide  "clear                                                               
direction" to a question that  has plagued the industry for quite                                                               
some time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:13:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken  asked   regarding  Governor   Frank  Murkowski                                                               
Administration's position on the bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. McConnochie responded that the  bill is supported by both the                                                               
Division of  Insurance in the  Department of  Commerce, Community                                                               
and   Economic  Development   and   the   Division  of   Workers'                                                               
Compensation   in  the   Department   of   Labor  and   Workforce                                                               
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:13:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
To  that  point,  Co-Chair  Green  noted  members'  bill  packets                                                               
contain a copy of a letter  [copy on file] dated February 7, 2006                                                               
from Department  of Labor and Workforce  Development Commissioner                                                               
Greg O'Claray  addressed to  Representative Tom  Anderson, Chair,                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked  whether  the  Department  of  Labor  and                                                               
Workforce  Development   "was  neutral,   for,  or   against  the                                                               
Legislation".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:14:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  LISANKIE,  Director,  Division  of  Workers'  Compensation,                                                               
Department of Labor and  Workforce Development, communicated that                                                               
the letter  conveyed Commissioner Greg O'Claray's  support of the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:14:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken moved  to report  the bill  from Committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There  being no  objection, CS  HB  409 (L&C)  was REPORTED  from                                                               
Committee with  two previous  zero fiscal  notes: fiscal  note #1                                                               
dated  February  24,  2006  from   the  Department  of  Commerce,                                                               
Community  and  Economic Development  and  fiscal  note #2  dated                                                               
February  23, 2006  from the  Department of  Labor and  Workforce                                                               
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:14:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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